Yes, I'm talking to an OPC server that draws data from 45 plc's they are on a different networks, this is all for production tracking and at times for equipment control and conveyor routing. The fix you showed me did work, but I'm not a sysadmin here and the network firewall blocked me, Monday that will be squared away and everything should work. I do have another question though, why does the label value change event only fire on false to true and not true to false? it is playing havoc with some of the tracking I'm doing in code.